System wyborczy w stanach zjednoczonych: dobry czy nie?

Dyskusje na temat życia w Stanach Zjednoczonych.
kowalskil
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Rejestracja: sob lip 07, 2012 12:30 pm

System wyborczy w stanach zjednoczonych: dobry czy nie?

Post autor: kowalskil »

Electing the US president; how to

To simplify the matter, assume there are only 7 states

State A counts as 5 votes (based on population of that state) Majority voted for X
State B counts as 4 votes ( based on ...). Majority in that state voted for Y
State C counts as 9 votes (based on ... ). Majority in that state voted for X
State D counts as 6 votes (based on ...). Majority in that state voted for Y
State E counts as 14 votes (based on ...) Majority in that state voted for X
State F counts as 6 votes ( based on ...) Majority in that state voted for Y
State G counts as 21 votes (based on ... ) Majority in that state voted for Y

To summarize:

X received 5+9+14=28 votes and Y received 4+6+6+21=37 votes. Y is the winner.

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I do not know why this system is called "Electoral College." In fact, the word "college" confused me for a long time. What does it have to do with colleges in which we study?

Suppose the president is elected by the sytem called "popular vote," used in some other countries.

In that case votes of individual citizens are counted, as illustrated below (this is also a simplification).

State A ==> 22 million voted for X and 3 million voted for Y.
State B ==> 4 million voted for X and 5 million voted for Y.
State C ==> 9 million voted for X and 13 million voted for Y.
State D ==> 12 million voted for X and 3 million voted for Y.
State E ==> 8 million voted for X and 23 million voted for Y.
State F ==> 2 million voted for X and 3 million voted for Y.
State G ==> 11 million voted for X and 8 million voted for Y.

To summarize:

X ==> 22+4+9+12+8+2+11=68 million
Y ==> 3+5+13+3+23+3+8 =58 million

In this case X is the winner . . . . . . . . . . . Is this fair or not? See:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/03/opini ... ef=opinion

http://www.archives.gov/federal-registe ... about.html


Ludwik Kowalski,
http://csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/life/intro.html

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godzilla
Posty: 14046
Rejestracja: sob paź 17, 2009 8:49 pm

Re: System wyborczy w stanach zjednoczonych: dobry czy nie?

Post autor: godzilla »

o kant go mozna potluc...
lelija
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Rejestracja: ndz paź 18, 2009 3:06 pm

Re: System wyborczy w stanach zjednoczonych: dobry czy nie?

Post autor: lelija »

godzilla pisze:o kant go mozna potluc...
No moze i tak -
ale tak prawde mowiac - czy wy przyjaciele nie macie wlasnych zmartwien
tam u siebie ?
godzilla
Posty: 14046
Rejestracja: sob paź 17, 2009 8:49 pm

Re: System wyborczy w stanach zjednoczonych: dobry czy nie?

Post autor: godzilla »

to pytanie do mnie czy do Kowalskiego?
tekajot
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Rejestracja: wt lis 16, 2010 7:02 am

Re: System wyborczy w stanach zjednoczonych: dobry czy nie?

Post autor: tekajot »

Czy uczestnik podpisujący się Ludwik Kowalski jest tożsamym z interesującą postacią, która przeszła ewolucję od oddanego stalinisty do zażartego antykomunisty?

Pytam, gdyż chciałbym mieć jasność z jakich pozycji ma wątpliwości do systemu wyborczego Stanów Zjednoczonych AP.
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